Re: A Succinctness Challenge

From: Alexander Burger (abu_at_software-lab.de)
Date: 05/31/04

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    Marc Battyani <Marc.Battyani@fractalconcept.com> wrote:
    > Here is what I do in my framework:
    > > - immediate responses to function keys acting on the database
    > > - pop-up dialogs and menus which handle database contents
    > > - unlimited table scrolling through the database
    > > - enable/disable GUI components depending on the current state of the

    Interesting. I still don't see how you do it in a portable way without
    Java, because no other technology gives you a permanent connection to
    the server in a portable way. Sorry, I could not find that information
    in your paper :-(

    I was trying many times to get away from Java (that's also the reason
    for the experiments in "lib/htm.l" I mentioned before), not because of
    security reasons, but because of poor Java support across many
    platforms.

    > And also :
    > Simultaneous update of all the views for all the users when a value changes.
    > On the fly pdf generation with cl-pdf and cl-typesetting,

    Besides pdf, we also generate plain PS and LaTeX in some cases.

    > It works trough firewalls and proxies.

    Firewalls and proxies are not so much a problem, because it only
    concerns connections in one direction (from client to server, as the
    applet connects backwards). And Pico Lisp also supports a tunneling
    protocol.

    > > For a more complete application than the simple person database take a
    > > loot at "http://bws.software-lab.biz", which is a scaled-down version
    > > of a real application. It may not be fully functional because we were
    > > too lazy to generate all necessary test data, but you'll get an idea.
    > > Login with "test" and "test" and play around a little.

    > OK I've played a little with it (though I don't speak German)
    > It's a nice Java database application, not really a web application.
    > Obviously each framework designer will prefer it's own one, otherwise he
    > would have done it in another way ;-)

    Yes, we agreed on that before :-)

    As you said, it depends very much on the purpose. A web application is
    probably easier for an un-initiated user, but for people who have to
    work with it 8 hours a day a dedicated application might be preferred.

    It would be nice if you could post a solution to the simple person
    database of my original posting, using your framework.

    - Alex

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