Re: Xah Lee's Unixism

From: Brian {Hamilton Kelly} (bhk_at_dsl.co.uk)
Date: 09/06/04 

Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 18:58:29 +0100 (BST)

On Sunday, in article
     <413af268$0$19706$61fed72c@news.rcn.com> jmfbahciv@aol.com
     wrote:

> In article <20040904.2231.57679snz@dsl.co.uk>,
> bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) wrote:
> >
> >VMS (originally) most decidedly did NOT have either TCP/IP or NFS.
>
> I thought VMS did get TCP/IP into it. I don't know anything about
> NFS.
>
> >Indeed, it took many years before DEC [sorry, by then it was already
> >d|i|g|i|t|a|l] had a TCP/IP stack available for VMS --- the dreaded heap
> >of quivering jelly created by the Eunice idiots.
> >
> >Before that, people who needed TCP/IP on a Vax used various third-party
> >solutions, such as the implementations from Carnegie-Mellon (CMU)
>
> Sigh! If CMU had it, I would have assumed it got hornshoed into
> VMS.

CMU's implementation did not get added to VMS. It was, however, widely
used, because (IIRC) academic sites could get it at a very low cost.

Digital themselves didn't have any TCP/IP support until the release of
"TCP/IP Services for Vax/VMS", which was written by the Unix-end of
Digital, and was *really* cruddy. This didn't happen until the
mid-1990s, anyway.

Hence why most folks, if they could afford it (it was by no means cheap),
bought MultiNet. 

-- 
Brian {Hamilton Kelly}                                     bhk@dsl.co.uk
   "I don't use Linux. I prefer to use an OS supported by a large multi-
   national vendor, with a good office suite, excellent network/internet
   software and decent hardware support."

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