Re: I've thought better of Linux

"Brandon J. Van Every" <mylastnameruntogether@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

> Pupeno wrote:
> > An example ? Dreamweaver comes with its own buggy implementation of ssh
> > (secure shell) used to upload web sites thru scp, which is by no way the
> > same used by puty, a ssh client. Resulting is duplication of software,
> > effort and the fact that although Puty works quite well, Dreamweaver's
> > implementation is buggy and it's not going to get fixed because Macromedia
> > people doesn't care (if you don't care, better than shipping a crapy
> > implementation is depending on an existing implementation done by someone
> > else).
>
> I wouldn't be shocked if a Windows-centric company did a half-assed
> job on Unix. Doesn't mean the same product has such problems on
> Windows.

Macromedia has not become windows-centric over the last several years?

> And if they make one huge package, and test the entire build
> themselves, then you're shielded from many problems. Dozens of
> independent packages means dozens of things that haven't necessarily
> been tested together and can all represent points of failure.

Pardon if this just does not make sense. Of course most vendors for
Windows don't make one self-contained package either. Most Windows
software depends on linking to Windows libraries for GUI widgets,
networking, user information and cryptography. While this is generally
a good thing, the Windows XP service pack ended up changing the function
of those libraries in ways that had unpredictable results on third-party
software. The other side of the story was that you couldn't *not*
install SP1 in a network environment, due to some rather nasty security
vulnerabilities.

Now in an FOSS world, you can either rebuild from source or, as is
frequently the case, someone else will have done it for you and uploaded
patched packages for you. However, I watched colleagues become
extremely frustrated wondering if updates to their much-needed software,
and sometimes very expensive software, would be released before SP1
became mandatory within our organization.

The problem of package conflicts in MS Windows land has become so
widespread that there is even jargon to describe it: "dll hell."
There is actually good money to be made fixing these problems for
users.

> --
> Cheers, www.indiegamedesign.com
> Brandon Van Every Seattle, WA
>
> I won't spend more than 1 day configuring 1 thing.

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