Re: Business applications in Lisp (Oracle Developer)

Tim X wrote: 
CN <cneumuell@xxxxxxxx> writes:

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Contrary to what you wrote, client/server deployment is easy. You
don't have to install the runtime on every client PC. On Windows all
clients have to use the same network share, then you import the
necessary registry entries and put a link on the desktop.



Been there, done that. It works OK with only small to menium numbers
of users. We have over 4000 local users and another 1000 on our
WAN. In the end, we used Citrix to deploy the client. Using even just
a share will still cause you headaches with the registry getting
screwed -  can end up a huge user support issue.


Looks like you are playing in a bigger league than me, I don't have
experience with 4000+ concurrent users. At our largest customer site
there are about 250. The "thin" C/S solution works fine there, but I
see that it will come to it's limits especially if you have users
connected through a WAN.


We adopted 9i fairly early and are now moving to 10g. It actually
works well compared to the old model - at least for our
needs. However, we still find forms/reports development slow compared
to doing equivelent web based reports using things like perl and to
some extent even Java. the Oracle forms/reports still have a place -
especially when you want less "stateless" interfaces. However, we are
still finding it too slow to respond to client needs. Currently, we
ahve about 10 developers working solely with reports/forms. However, a


I've created a generic reporting solution to speed up Reports development
in PL/SQL. It works quite well for simple master/detail and some matrix
reports. The output can be SYLK (an Excel-readable spreadsheet format),
XML, an Oracle Report or it's displayed in a form. But the static Forms
and Reports world is clearly at it's limits with stuff like that.

couple of us are in the lucky position of being given a mandate to
find/create faster solutions. I'm currently trying to show how fast we
could do some things if we used CL. Still a fair bit of FUD to get rid
of, but progress looks promising at this stage.

Tim


Good luck to you. Don't hesitate to keep the community informed about
your progress. I am very interested in Lisp/Database solutions.

Chris
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