Re: Just can't hear enough about Cells?

Ken Tilton wrote:
Frank Buss wrote:
Ken Tilton wrote:


Which sections of which
docs, examples, and Usenet articles were confusing to you?



:)

kenneth

Come on Ken, you really can't just blow off Frank's experience like
that can you? I read somewhere (I think related to Lisp, can't find
the linky now) where the author basically said "If a programmer can't
get a library doing some basic stuff in 10 minutes, they'll give up".
In my personal experience this is very true, unless I really need
something I'll give up after about 10 minutes of effort. Last time I
looked at Cells I spent significantly more than 10 minutes to get a
demo working, and had a long back and forth with you here. We got it
working in the end and you acknowledged the docs needed updating and
said you checked the updates into CVS.

So three months later Frank has a go at getting Cells to work and has
no luck. Yes, I'm sure that people have done interesting things with
Cells. Yes, I'm sure it is very cool - you seem like a smart guy and
you bang on about it at every possible opportunity. But right now
Cells is in the too hard bin because it takes more that 10 minutes to
get results from it.

If you want to get more users, make getting Cells more user friendly
- Update the website
- Release a stable tarball in a prominent place so the fast
development of Cells won't cause documentation/code breakage.
- Make it work for newcomers in under 10 minutes

Cells has a good advocate in you, but it doesn't have any way to hook
somebody into using it because feeling it out is too bloody hard.
So make it easier for us peasants who just want things to work easily.
Or you can not fix the 10 minute experiance and just keep promoting
Cells and nobody will bother using it because it doesn't work right
away. Whichever is easier for you.

Cheers
Brad

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