Re: Just can't hear enough about Cells?



Jacques Chester wrote:
Ken Tilton wrote:



Jacques Chester wrote:

Ken Tilton wrote:

Ok, but he got it from reading my doc, examples, Usenet articles, so...?




Sure, but I still got more out of that presentation than
the stuff I've looked at.

[...]

Yes? No?

kenny


That was good, but it doesn't come it first thing on
the website.

Yeah, and look at the right margin! One inch? Hello! That should be an inch-and-a-quarter!!! It's all my fault. :)

Perhaps you could start with the story of
your dad's spread*** - the bald "it's like spread***
cells" confused me. Did it mean:

* I was going to refer to each cell using fairly easy to
mix up row-and-column references?
* What a given cell could do was pretty limited?
* That I'd need to use another paradigm anyway, given
the limitations of spreadsheets? (see also: zillions of
Excel files doing - poorly - the work best given to a
proper RBMS)

The read I took on the situation was that, while the doc and marketing (and margin settings) could be better, no, that is not why so few got on the bandwagon. Another /huge/ Lisp open source contributor told me "Get used to it."

So I decided code (a Cells-based GUI, to be specific) would be more effective (and necessary, actually) to spread the word. That led to Cello, which was a distraction in itself because OpenGL is so perty.

Meanwhile, a Thomas here, a Vasily there -- that is all one can expect. Peter D, Frank G, and now Ryan and the Pythonistas. And at the same time we see all the parallel developments: COSI, Adobe Adam.

Just a matter of time. I am just laughing because the Pythonistas have caught on so much more readily than the smug Lisp weenies. (Btw, talk about smug, I think the Pythonistas have us beat at that, too.)

And a year from now when people are calling me an *** for sitting on the idea for ten years, we are all going to have a very good laugh. Meanwhile, observe that no Lispnik has actually signed up to the Cells list since this thread started, but many are happily blaming me for not telling them /in the right way/.

:)

kt

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