Re: Amazon used lisp & C exclusively?

Ken Tilton wrote:

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Oh, yeah, this is the other thing you old dawgs cannot be trained off.
Sorry, Charlie. $1425 is /nothing/ comapred to what other craftsmen are
paying for their tools. You want be a serious photographer?
Cabinetmaker? Guitarist? For $1425? PWUUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!


Thats more than a months salary for targetting a single
platform. Almost 4 months salary if you want 3 platforms.

For a product which doesn't even approach the usefulness
of the free offerings (see gcc) I'd definitely think twice
about spending more than my car is worth.

I am also a serious guitarist - total equipment value
consisting of 2 electric guitars, an amp and a low-powered
speaker, a digital tuner and a tuning pipe, and one acoustic
guitar lets me enjoy my hobby; total cost under 300USD.

All bought second hand; I can't buy any crappy lisp
implementation second hand though.

Kent is right: the real virus is the FSF idea that we should not have to
pay for software. It has sucked immeasurable man hours right down the
drain. Free my ass.

Well, the idea that a closed source piece of software is worth
more than I make in 3 months, and is worth more than my car,
and in fact is worth more than an overseas holiday, well ...
the FSF has done something good then; else my C and C++
compilers might be costing about the same as well.

You know something is wrong when the biggest asset you purchase
is your home, and the second biggest is software for your hobby.


Or maybe you /want/ a bunch of tirekickers to be using Lisp. Nah, they
just track in a lot of dirt.


Maybe you should get off the internet then, you freeloader :-)
I mean you are, after all, reading this message (and
getting all your internet access) under the auspices(sp?)
of the FSF. Surely you don't think that ISPs like giving
out money for commercial licences? Also, stop using
google, as they have benefitted as well.

OTOH, commercial lisp implementations have contributed so
little to my life that I won't notice if they all went
bellyup and disappeared overnight.

(actually, that might not be such a bad idea. Keep overcharging
and sooner or later you'll die of attrition as young blood
comes into lisp-world, sees what is being charged for commercial
lisps and simply uses sbcl, or cmucl, or clisp, etc. I won't
be surprised if lisp vendors stop getting new customers).

Well when you start valuing your time at zero as the FSF has taught you,
sure!

Luckily, the FSF has taught me that I don't need to beg greedy
corps for 30 year old technology if I am willing to share
my work.

goose,
:-)

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