Re: haskell APL perl+maypole/gantry, python smalltalk clisp plt scheme how decide?


sailormoontw@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
I am not sure why there is no well supported open source Common Lisp
native code or
Lisp-to-C compilers available on Windows, but it's just harder to
implement than Scheme.

Well, there's history for starters. Open source is generally either a
Unix crowd or a Java crowd. That's where the critical mass is; there
are very very few people like myself trying to make a go at open source
on Windows. There's also a question of what Windows is good for. For
me, it's good for game development. "Good" in this context doesn't
mean I like it, but rather, there are game consumers. In contrast,
MacOS is marginal and Linux is a joke. Most Lispers haven't been game
developers, game developers are performance oriented, and Common Lisp
does not define a standard C FFI. So I see very little to "pull" open
source developers to Windows. Really, when I think about who I will be
converting to Chicken Scheme for game development some day, I think
I'll be converting native Windows developers, not extant Unix open
source developers.

Even Chicken Scheme, which had MSVC already working most of the time,
and Cygwin well supported, has taken me 9 months to kick into proper
shape on Windows with CMake. Chicken Scheme is a very small project
compared to any Common Lisp implementation. So it is no shock to me
that the CL porting jobs are ongoing and haven't gotten done.


Cheers,
Brandon Van Every

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