Re: Java is going to have closures.




Novus wrote:
On 2006-08-27 21:38:27 -0400, "joh" <slugo@xxxxxxxxx> said:

David Steuber wrote:
I don't think it matters what language features are adopted. One of
the things that makes Lisp special is the development environment.
You're in a running Lisp session and dynamically adding and changing
definitions. You can even break the execution of a Lisp session and
make changes from in the debugger.

Until you can do that with Java, it won't be the same.

You can, if you use Eclipse.

I hope you weren't trying to imply Eclipse is a nice development environment.
And even if you were you still have to agree that it is a slow, bloated beast.

Novus

Should you be faced with the unfortunate necessity to write and
maintain Java code, Eclipse is very nice to have around. If you have
put in the time to really learn emacs, you will not want to use Eclipse
as an editor, but I think you will find the refactoring tools and
debugger very useful. I have both emacs and Eclipse open most of the
time -- they play nice together with a little setup work.

It is not slow on my machine, and if by bloated you refer to feature
bloat, that only matters if you plan to use it as your primary
environment. Otherwise you learn the few features that are useful, and
the rest are irrelevant.

.



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