Re: Someone explain (Mc)Clim to me as if I were 5 years old

On 2006-10-26, Ken Tilton <kentilton@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Pardon a non-responsive response, but why do you want to use McClim or
any form of Clim?

Perhaps because CLIM implements some interesting concepts, and with the
prominent exception of normal widgets ("gadgets") is rather complete.

Most of us are using Tk, Gtk, wxWindows, or
implementation-specific GUIS that work just like the ones you are used
to.

Using or implementing?

There are certainly lots of Lisp programmers _implementing_ such GUI
toolkits in Lisp (LTK, various GTK+ bindings, Graphic Forms, cells-gtk).

How many real applications based on those libraries are there?

(Oh, I know, closed-source commercial software using Franz CG and
LispWorks CAPI that nobody has ever heard of. Right.)

Clim never really caught on.

Perhaps not until McCLIM came along. Now there are various non-trivial
applications using CLIM, e.g. Climacs, Beirc, Gsharp, and of course
Closure. Neither of which is complete and perfect, but all of them are
basically usable and certainly more than just a toy example.


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