Re: Lisp article at IBM

On Mar 9, 6:02 am, Tim X <t...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The criticism is constructive. LISP deserves more credit than usual
but postings as that of Tim X trying to present people do not using
LISP as a kind of stupids disliking "elegance" (a term of course
matching Tim X favourite measure of it) may not help to LISP promotion
(despite being a false argument).

I'm not sure I even understand exactly what you are saying. To make any
statement regarding what is or is not my favorite term after a single post is
rediculous and you have totally misrepresented (or misunderstood) what I was
arguing - in fact, you pretty much have it backwards. My post had absolutely
nothing to do with why people should or should not use CL or LISP. In fact, the
post was about debates wtihin c.l.l on lisp and CL and why these debates seldom
come to any real conclusion or progress further than descending into circular
arguement which is often based on theoretical rather than practicle issues. I
wasn't even making any claims, but rather presenting some observations for
debate.

To remark again, when you said:

It is possible part of the problem here is that lisp is so powerful and one of
the few languages which is able to adapt to the complexities of the real world
with such ease and elegance.

My point was that maybe your evaluation of LISP is plaing wrong. Maybe
reason LISP is not more popular is because is not "so powerful" (as
you claimed) and is not adapting to the complexities of the real world
with ease and elegance (as you claimed also).

When you said:

I'm pleased I have lisp to
code with and I'm pleased I have GNU Linux, but if the rest of the world cannot
see the advantages, well, thats their loss and I'd rather keep things as they
are than sacrifice power, elegance or reliability simply to see increased
popularity.

My point was that maybe the rest of the world is not so blinded as you
think and maybe is ***not*** "the rest of the world who "cannot see
the advantages", but both LISP and Linux communities are failing to
see disavantages.

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