Re: Did you manage to interest somebody to learn lisp? Ever.
- From: fireblade <slobodan.blazeski@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 22 May 2007 05:55:16 -0700
On May 21, 3:30 pm, jt <JeremiaTho...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I'm trying to bring some of my friends to learn lisp, but results are
poor. Most of them are doing .net(VB & C#), few are in LAMP boat.
Nobody believes that lisp belongs in the modern world. What should I
do ? None of them is interested in lisp, they either never heard
about lisp or think that it's only for AI. I showed them my programs
and revit movies and they reply that's cool but only good for
prototypes. In order to make real apps you need .net/php. Anybody had
more luck? And how you've done it?
Like other posters already said , people must have a high opinion of
you as a programmer. Then show them something cool, like changing code
while your server is running (Erann Gatt example with debugging Deep
Space code http://www.flownet.com/gat/jpl-lisp.html is quite
impressive). You could show power of CLOS but I don't use it much
though a few good examples of generic functions might look good.Muproc
might be interesthing too , Lisp is not Erlang but hundreds processes
will probably look cool for those who never heard of Erlang /Termite.
And the best idea is learn more Lisp for yourself the better apps you
made the better chance is to intrigue them that you have some kind of
secret weapons .One more tip for competitive products don't show your
prototypes early people will try to steal your knwoledge (felt this on
my skin with odbc) , show your power when your app is already
midsized, lisp strength is RAD if you show them how app architecture
should look like, which is as a product of your experimentation they
will recode it in c#/php .Make them sweat and make their wrong
waterfall assumptions.
But I don't preach lisp anymore.Above is obviously a lie, a colleague just called me a lisp preacher .
PS.
But don't be a smug lisp weenie http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?SmugLispWeenie
that will lead your nowhere , preach only when they are interested in
listening.
.
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