Re: I finally understand why I'm not allowed to use Lisp

Rainer Joswig wrote:
Letting inexperienced people work longer makes the problem worse.
From a corporate perspective this is visible, since
it costs real money and targets will be failed.

Only if you pay them overtime. Maybe this is normal (or required) in your part of the world, but I think in much of the US and UK salary paid to programmers is not related to hours worked. Maybe your (hypothetical "your", not you personally) boss knows you're last out of the building each night, but his boss probably doesn't, and it's not showing on the balance sheet

I'm not so pessimistic. Lot's of project managers are not totally
stupid and there is lots of literature and seminars about these
> topics. Example: Many have heard about 'Extreme Programming'

Yes, I think it's getting better, and the XP school did very good work popularising what "everyone already knew". But if we're talking about the kind of place where production code can be written by people who don't know how to use a loop, I think it'll take a while yet before agile practices (or even just *good* practices) filter their way down that far.

And when they do, their biggest wins will be in tracking and coping with externally-imposed requirements change, not whether their programmers are experienced.


-dan
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