Re: socially challenged???!!??
- From: Slobodan Blazeski <slobodan.blazeski@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 04:06:56 -0700
On Jul 4, 4:26 pm, Ken Tilton <kennytil...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Slobodan Blazeski wrote:
On Jul 4, 1:58 pm, Ken Tilton <kennytil...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Slobodan Blazeski wrote:
On Jul 4, 1:44 pm, Ken Tilton <kennytil...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Slobodan Blazeski wrote:
On Jul 4, 12:22 pm, Ken Tilton <kennytil...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Slobodan Blazeski wrote:
On Jul 3, 8:26 pm, Ken Tilton <kennytil...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
jimbo...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Jul 3, 10:59 am, Ken Tilton <kennytil...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yeah, it was a completely ironic and deliberately self-referential post
meant to amuse and edify. How did I know it would be lost on a dolt like
you?
OK, I'll try harder in the future to keep up.
I was thinking "catch up". You come into one of the better NGs on UseNet
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What part of set theory do you not understand?
hth,kt
Once upon a time in a village far far away there was a barbershop
whose barber had a strict policy of shaving everybody in the village
who didn't shave themselves and noone else. Should the barber shave
himself ?
I see. You would rather talk about computability than set theory. Not
that this example is at all interesting.
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Gave up already ?
Decided already. You stuck? Hell, it was your (boring) riddle.
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Actually I was talking about a set theory,...
When are you people goin to learn to listen to me? That is almost
entirely about computability, and only trivially about set theory. F*ck,
it is a simple find-if.
Tell you what, translate the riddle into Lisp and see what you get,
maybe then you can understand His Kennyness.
as the puzzle I presented,
called a Barber paradox
Typical academics, naming a triviality. Reminds me of PAIP.
... and attributed to Bertrand Russell and
analogous to Russell's Paradox, which is devised to show that set
theory as it was used by Georg Cantor and Gottlob Frege contained
contradictions.
No, it is not a contradiction. The problem statement was perfectly
comprehensible. There is a problem, but it is not one of contradiction
which involves saying X is Y and X is not Y.
If the barber does not shave himself, he must abide by the rule and
shave himself.
If he does shave himself, according to the rule he shouldn't shave
himself.
Omigod, you thought Myself could not figure that out? Of course those
observations are fine, now stop whining and answer the damn question:
should the barber shave himself? What happens? Look at your Lisp code.
hth,kt
My lisp code gets in recursive stack overflow if all below premises
are included:
1. Village, Villagers & barber must exist.
2. Barber shaves everybody in the village who don't shave themselves &
noone else
3. 1 & 2 must be true in any point of time, no time tricks allowed.
So your code for solving the puzzle with all 3 rules included would be
highly appreciated.
My answer is that barber makes some exception now & then to his policy
and because beards are out of fashion at his village & beside it's a
bad propaganda he shaves himself. So I still believe that problem is
uncomputable without changing/misinterpretetting the puzzle.
Slobodan
Slobodan
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