Re: Doing the unthinkable?

Jason <jemeade@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

Hi All,

I'm on an intel mac, OS X 10.4, and am contemplating actually
purchasing software. (Yeah, I know!)

I'm testing LispWorks Personal and Allegro CL (with 30 day demo), and
manged to get both environments connected (with postmodern and pals)
to my postgres db. Both seem to offer concurrent threads (still
looking into that).

I like the LW IDE. Real fancy. The GUI cocoa/aqua support sounds nice.
Haven't looked at the X11 too much. Unfortunately, it seems the ACL
IDE doesn't work on a mac. Too bad, cause I'd like to test that...

Anyone care to share their experiences with these environments,
especially on OS X? I'm not hell-bent on buying either one, and if I
do it might not be for a while. If there's a good free lisp that
supports FFI, Threads, maybe gui work, then I'd love to hear about
that too!

Thanks

-Jason

I have been using OS X now for about 3 years to do Lisp development
and I am both pleased with LW and ACL. For GUI programming I am using
Kenny Tilton's Celtk (being based on Tcl/Tk and Cells). Fun, fun, fun.

For ACL I use Emacs/Slime which works really great except for using
the Stepper while debugging. If I really need to step I
quickly fire up LW and use this.

LW is nice and I am using it now as my main development platform
PRECISELY BECAUSE THERE IS NO IDE FOR ACL ON OS X ... Do you listen,
Franz ?! (I have been telling them now for about 9 months but hey, "we
consider it for one of our next releases" is all I got ...)

Both companies offer excellent support, btw. I always got prompt and
precise answers and tips for any request I had - no matter if I was a
real paying customer or just using a free version.

I am about to ship now for the first time for a wider audience and
greater number of users and I am also looking for a Lisp that does not
require buying a license as this is just hobby (Amateur Radio) stuff
that I will not make money of.

Would be good to hear what your decision is then...

Cheers

Frank

--

Frank Goenninger

frgo(at)mac(dot)com

"Don't ask me! I haven't been reading comp.lang.lisp long enough to
really know ..."
.

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