Re: CLtL2 copyright question



D Herring wrote:
- Paraphrasing Guy Steele's 1998 OOPSLA keynote, languages must grow over time. CL is like a potted plant that became root-bound years ago.

Why don't you just get a big rubber stamp that says "I never program computers", lather it up with India ink and stamp it on your forehead?

Because you just said that you are unable to program computers with Common Lisp as it stands. I would recommend needlepoint as an alternative, but... nahh, if you cannot program with CL you probably cannot punch holes in things either.

Meanwhile, it is so exciting again to hear a Java and constraints designer held up as an authority on programming languages.


- While relatively few, the ANSI spec does have flaws.
http://www.cliki.net/Proposed%20ANSI%20Revisions%20and%20Clarifications

Nope, yer not a programmer. You might try Logo to get started.


- Core details such as multithreading are not addressed by the specification.

Omigod! Fall on the floor twitching!!!

http://www.cliki.net/Proposed%20Extensions%20To%20ANSI
http://cdr.eurolisp.org/

- Media formats change over time. CLHS is great for what it is, but it is not the best format for reading the spec cover-to-cover. And it was written before MathML allowed proper embedding of equations.

Yeah, MathML is catching on like hotcakes.

ANSI's pdf is a sad joke. Where can one legally obtain a quality, freshly printed copy? A bookmarked/hyperlinked PDF? Something embedded in an IDE as a tag cloud? Something suitable for ebook readers?

- The annotated XML spec is a wonderful resource. Other languages have similar docs; why can't Lisp?

Are you stoned? Urine test in the morning for you!

In short, it would be best if...

....you bozos stfu and wrote some code.

hth, kenny
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