Re: Fred Brooks on Cells! [was Re: defmethod vs defun]



Ken Tilton wrote:


Pascal Costanza wrote:

Ken Tilton wrote:



Pascal Costanza wrote:

I did it before, and I told you what I think about it.



No, you told someone else it was so bad you would not trust it



That _is_ what I think about it.

and I invited you to expand on your calumny. You demurred.



Yep, and I told you why.



Ok, now even I am bored.

Anyway, the anniversary edition of Brooks's "The Mythical Man-Month" ended up in plain view -- I quote it often and my indexing scheme for stuff involves "plain sight" -- while an exchange with the legendary Jay Sulzberger over the meaning of "is" led to him linking me to a quantum dataflow diagram of his <inject oceanside handwaving>

er, that reads wrong, the handwaving is mine trying to describe Jay's erudite quantum stuff.

kt

and I said, Why
not? and dashed off a note to Dr. Brooks asking if dataflow had entered the lists for the Yes Silver Bullet Prize. I guess he has not heard of me because he answered: turns out he worked on the IBM Harvest computer, way back when, a dataflow machine. Shazzam! But Brooks reports "I did not consider [dataflow programming] to be a serious programming contender."

Pascal! Yer right!!

:)

kenny

ps.

Of course if you were just blowing smoke... hey, maybe
you can get all the yobbos together to help you, they'd love that.



I don't know how to parse that as an invitation.


The one I remember from the archives of #lisp IRC was something subtle like "Kenny is being a jerk about X on c.l.l, let's go get him.", to which someone replied in marvelous self-reference:

"Let's make him think there is a conspiracy."

You can't make that stuff up (unless they did).

:) k



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