Re: Another place to find free Common Lisp libraries

xahlee@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Aug 14, 3:42 am, Dan Weinreb <d...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
There are many repositories of Common Lisp free libraries, many of
which you can find through links in my survey paper athttp://common-lisp.net/~dlw/LispSurvey.html.

I just learned about one I had not heard about before: www.lispwire.com.
It's sponsored by Franz but it's fine for everyone. Franz provides a
link to "Allegro CL Free Express Edition" athttp://www.franz.com/downloads/allegrodownload.lhtml. The libraries
have been tested with Allegro but it is my impression that many of
them will work with other implementations.

Kudos to Franz for sponsoring this.

There will be discussion at the International Lisp Conference about
the future of Common Lisp library repositories. There's no reason we
can't do something as popular and useful as, say, CPAN.


When one thinks about it, this situation of lispers not having a
centralized lib depository is quite, extremely stupid.

Mathematica, had mathsource.com in the early 1990s, and now merged
into the wolfram.com info section.

Perl's CPAN and TeX's TPAN's been around in about the same time.

I was also deeply chagrined, to know that there's no central
depository for elisp.

Such a despsitory isn't hard to do.

No, what is hard to do is herding cats. Lispers by definition cannot be organized, unless it is to drink.

Any seanoned web developer can do
it in few days, esp with today's abundance of tools. (for example,
today, a full featured website for code depository with search
abilities and categories etc so on, can be be literally done in a
couple of days. (any company can pay me 1k USD and i'll have it up
running. (please contact me)))

It is not a wonder, that non-lispers have a hard time to love or
appreciate lisp, and in my opinion they are just.

Would you expect sheep to be attracted to the lifestyle of a hawk?


Sometimes, when one considers many of the open source projects, their
apparent deficiencies (when compared to commercial products for
example), yet met with the most, extreme motherfucking denial, really
makes it sad. (as my experiences in advocating modernization of emacs
for example
http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization.html
)

In the past about 13 years i used newsgroup, typically i don't post
more than 1 or 2 messages per week (unless the group is moderated such
as Mathematica.). Over the years, esp post 2000, i learned that many
what i'd call unix or perl morons simply don't know things, so instead
of me assumig they are just to *** with me, i should not take offense
and should try more explanatory approach instead (as opposed to simply
post a summarized opinion that often criticise something and assume
well educated readers). But in this year, especially this month, i
started to post freely, experimenting with a conversational style like
most tech geekers are. I learned, GHASTLY, the actual degree of their
ignorance. The problem becomes, to answer each and every post
patiently, and in detail. (most of these newsgroup fuckers don't read
the whole thread, and most simply just react to one message (or a
single line) that touched their fancy. (they actually think they are
participating reasonably in a discussion with a straight face) And in
my 10+ years of newsgroup use, i think the number of people who
actually tried to read whole threads as a discussion and consider the
subject as a whole, is countable on my fingers. Reasonable people who
appreciate their time have long abandoned newsgroups as idea/question
exchange place.)

Yesterday, i realized that i'm the #1 poster in gnu.emacs.help for
this month with respect to frequency, and am #3 in comp.lang.lisp this
month. LOL. Congradulations Xah! Well done.

Due to the numrousness of posting and the fact of actually conversing
with each individual (many are emacs developers), there is actually a
positive effect. That is, because i actually responded to each or most
messages individually (and without being sarcastic or swearing), they
began to think i'm serious in my views and seriously consider points i
made.

The Mighty Xah, domesticated?

Say it ain't so, Xah! Say it ain't so!

But I guess it's good for your blood pressure.


And, i'd say, they began to actually to admit, that i have some
valid points (to say the least). (LOL. Quite ridiculous these cave
dwellers. (imagine, a professor in subject X. Instead of publishing a
book for society to read, he now has to actually patiently shake hands
and say hello to each highschool students, so that these highschoolers
wouldn't consider him a troll))

I think I have quoted before the Bell Labs engineer being written up in the Newark Star-Ledger 25 years ago on the occasion of some wonderfulness of his saying, "The hardest part for me was realizing I was being tolerated by all the people I had been tolerating."

hth, kt


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