Re: Windows Common LISP

Leandro Rios escribió:
jvdvyah escribió:
Ah well, another thread devolved into the old open/free/Free/FSF/
Public vs. commercial/Windows/majority-lusers chestnut.

If it's all the same to y'all; I really don't care one iota about any
of this. I just know that there are numerous people using Windows as
their main platform who would like to get into LISP (a few responses
to this thread demonstrate as much).

I'm sure that out of those at least a few (if not many) will have the
intellectual capabilities necessary to actually be able to learn
Common LISP (previous posts to the contrary notwithstanding; once
you've figured how to make anything run stably on Windows, you should
be able to tackle a lot more :-))

After all, there are some very clever on this list who have Windows as
at least one of their Common LISP environments already (Edi comes to
mind: of course, he did the smart thing and chose Lispworks and I'll
be pointing newbies to that and Allegro and Corman as well, to follow
his good example).

Nevertheless, fact remains, a lot of people are disappointed to see
the licensing and crippling of free editions of Lispworks and Allegro,
and the relative bareness of Corman; I just intend to lower that
particular threshold and a few others.

So, since this thread has degraded, I'm just going to go ahead and do
what I set out to do and will start a brand new all-shiny, singing and
dancing new thread when I have some progress to report.

You all have fun continuing the discussions!

Ben.

Sorry, please ignore the previous post. What I wanted to say is that I
see everyone making much ado about nothing. What's the problem? That if
you want to have a noncommercial lisp environment you have to run it in
linux? If none of the free Windows options satisfies your requirements,
choose among these:

- make room for a new partition where to install linux and install it there.
- install linux in a vm in your existing windows partition.
- install linux in a partition and windows in a vm. (This is what I did)

After choosing one of those, you can install emacs+sbcl+slime in linux.
If you install ubuntu (as I did) you can just get the necessary packages
via Synaptic. You can start learning Common Lisp in no time. Some time
later you will be able to get rid of clc and install everything yourself.

In the end you will have learned about CL, linux, slime and emacs.
What's wrong with that? Isn't that good?

If you are going to say that this is a procedure way too involved for a
newbie, please don't. We like to imagine that people learning to program
can handle situations like resizing a partition or installing (and
learning the basics of) a new OS. Please don't tear our illusion apart.

Leandro



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