Re: Optional Features (Re: If Scheme is so good why MIT drops it?)
- From: Rainer Joswig <joswig@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:39:36 -0700 (PDT)
On 28 Jul., 14:48, Mark Tarver <dr.mtar...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 28 July, 12:15, p...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Pascal J. Bourguignon)
wrote:
Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nos...@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
On 24 July, 23:40, Jim Burton <j...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Gendarme <endarme...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
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IMO this says less about Scala than it does about Unix, and how the
latter is still not quite up to snuff in the usability department. In
particular, until installing things on Unix is as painless and
reliable as it is on other platforms, it will not be a viable
competitor to Microsoft on the desktop.
IME "installing things on Unix", if debian and its clones count, is
painless and reliable, certainly if the software is available as a
package; less hassle than Windows in fact:
$ sudo apt-get install scala
you've got to be joking...
If you're not aware that apt/yum whatever will handle dependencies
nicely and keep your whole system up to date, you can't have used linux
in quite a while because although this used to mark debian out now
just about every modern distro has good package management. Of the other
*NIXes FreeBSD is just as good, probably the others too.
I think this rather illustrates the point about the unfriendliness
of Unix installations! I shouldn't *need* to know about a whole
alphabet soup of mnemonics in order to load a piece of software
onto my computer.
Right. You shouldn't have to know a whole alphabet soup of mnemonics
in order to post on usenet either. Start forgetting about "z", you
didn't used it in that post. You coul also forget about "y", you used
it, but I assure you we'd have understood it as well without the "y".
Go on with "x" which is quite useless a alphabetical letter. Don't
stop here. When you can reduce your usenet post to the empty string,
and you'll have forgotten all about alphabet, soups and mnemonic
words, you will be able to go back to parietal pictural expression
(and post them of flickr with a grrh!).
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__Pascal Bourguignon__- Hide quoted text -
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This is simply juvenile. Nick is making a perfectly valid point about
the Linux mindset which has hindered its general adoption. Knowledge
of the alphabet has what to do with his point?
Knowing 'a whole alphabet soup of mnemonics' is pretty much the basic
requirement for all kinds of programming activities including Lisp
programming. If somebody can't remember a few commands to install
software, then this person should better not try to have a career in
software development.
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