Re: Flash version of phpMyAdmin

From: Darren Gates (removethisg8z_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 04/01/04 

Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 19:37:44 GMT

phpFlashMyAdmin reduces the time to edit records because the editing is
performed directly within the DataGrid component in Flash, and as soon as
the user clicks off of the grid cell (after editing the data) the change is
immediately saved. This is very analogous to how Microsoft Access does it -
as soon as the user clicks off of a table in MS Access, the change is
immediately saved.

To summarize, to edit a record in phpMyAdmin (html):
1) load the dataset
2) click on the little edit icon to display edit screen
3) edit data & save

But to edit a record in phpMyAdmin (flash):
1) load the dataset
2) edit the data (saving is automatic)

Thus, it's 1 step less (and no page refreshes, either)... this is very
analogous to the MS Access method.

Now, as far as the initialization time in Flash - you're correct, there is a
bit more time to initialize the various UI components. However, this is a
one-time delay, which the user only experiences when the system is loading.
Once initialized, the components do not have to be re-initialized. Also, the
initialization time is (in my opinion) not substantial... I think that it
adds about 2-3 seconds to the start time, depending on your computer's
speed.

For the pageable recordsets, phpFlashMyAdmin only loads the data that is has
to load - if you have 100,000 records but only 30 are being displayed, then
only 30 are loaded (as you would expect). This is consistent with the way
that phpMyAdmin loads recordsets, and really is the only logical way to
browse data.

"Savut" <webki@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:R1Yac.136$%41.5404@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Page are divised because it's aimed to keep webpage small, what if you had
> 30000 records, will you load them all just because you want to edit one
row.
> But anyway, I am not starting a fight, your relationnal feature is
> excellent, it would be a pain to do it in html. Euh, what I mean faster,
is
> not about loading data, what i mean is displaying, The time flash use to
> display the data in the interface and recreate the objects and all, it
take
> much more time that html plain text in browser. That's the point, unless
you
> use phpMyAdmin on a slow server, but on intranet the time it take to
> generate a new page is only less than half a seconde, this is pretty
faster
> than the time is take for the flash to just display the data. But what is
> really good is the drag & drop workspace and the low bandwidth comsomming.
>
> Savut
>
> "Darren Gates" <removethisg8z@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:VoXac.44931$Jv3.31576@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com...
> > Regardless of whether one feels that frames or Flash is evil or not...
> > there
> > are many things that can be done in Flash that are simply *impossible*
(or
> > at least, REALLY hard) to implement using HTML.
> >
> > I present to you the "relationships building" tool in phpFlashMyAdmin...
> > how
> > would this be done using phpMyAdmin (with InnoDB tables)? Well, you
could
> > certainly could use "alter table" SQL syntax, but that's a pain to do
over
> > and over for every change. Then, to delete or alter the relationship,
you
> > must also use SQL... why not simply drag and drop the relationships
> > visually
> > and instantaneously? By using Flash, creating and modifying foreign key
> > relationships among tables (and thus enforcing so-called "referential
> > integrity") is WAY easier than by executing SQL.
> >
> > As far as speed goes... how is it that loading 40 KB of HTML is faster
> > than
> > loading 5 KB of XML? (with the extra 35 KB being extraneous display
> > information that phpMyAdmin must load with *every* page refresh)...
> > granted,
> > Flash must parse the XML and load the data into a component, but the
time
> > needed for that is quite trivial.
> >
> > And then there are the page refreshes... After I've accessed the 15th
page
> > of a recordset and edited some number of records using phpMyAdmin, I'm
> > nearly about to pull my hair out waiting for pages to refresh!
> > phpFlashMyAdmin elminates page refreshes completely.
> >
> > "Savut" <webki@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ApWac.63734$1A6.1636625@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >> Flash is more evil as it use third party. There is a lot more browsers
> >> supporting frames than flash (~75% only) in the world.
> >> Secondo, for timed task, HTML users has been proven to be 40% faster
than
> >> the flash version.
> >>
> >> But still a good project, it may lead to something good later.
> >>
> >> Savut
> >>
> >> "Paul Taylor" <pftaylor@technocurve.co.uk> wrote in message
> >> news:qtfn60180bi1u4v88q38t23n6ml52pa0fu@4ax.com...
> >> > IMHO frames are far more evil than Flash.
> >> >
> >> > Paul Taylor
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 04:11:56 GMT, "Ian.H" <ian@WINDOZEdigiserv.net>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 01:50:39 +0000, Darren Gates wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> hi PHP users,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Here's a Flash 7 version of phpMyAdmin:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://www.tufat.com/phpflashmyadmin.php
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Wow.. sorry Darren.. but how pointless is this!?
> >> >>
> >> >>Flash is _EVIL_.. and _DEFINITELY_ has no place in administration
like
> >> >>this IMO.. and has such a limited audience capacity.. it makes it
even
> >> >>more useless (most modern browsers will work with phpMA fine
providing
> >> >>they handle frames (I've not checked if this can be config'd in phpMA
> >> >>to
> >> >>not use frames).. but flash is a completely separate.. 3rd-party
> >> >>requirement).
> >> >>
> >> >>Someone has way too much time on their hands =)
> >> >>
> >> >>Just my opinions anyway.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Ian
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

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