Re: Apache vs IIS


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eclipsme wrote:
Lars wrote:
Apache vs IIS? I haven't got ASP.NET to work on Apache niether on
my Windows Server not on my Linux Server so there for I would
chose IIS. Not that Apache is bad but ASP.NET is far easier and
faster to create good web forms in.
IIS is designed for ASP, or rather visa versa. I don't think you
can run asp on Apache, but I could be wrong.
You can run asp on Apache server, and you can do that even on an
Apache running on a Linux server. It's a bit more tricky to install
Apache+asp on Linux than iis+asp on microsoft.


I am just hoping somebody can say "look here" for the differences
in running php from IIS vs Apache. I guess it won't be so easy,
though...
It's easier to say what could be wrong if seen the code and your iis
settings.
PHP on a IIS server is rather easy to run once you install PHP on a
PC but if you only use PHP why not use Apache for Windows. If you
plan to use IIS then I ASP.NET and a database on the homepage then
IIS is a good suggestion. I haven't tried PHP on IIS since I can use
ASP.NET. The old version of ASP is pretty similar to PHP. As I recall
the use of PHP started to grow when ASP was introduces. The syntax of
the two languages is different. With ASP.NET not only do you write C#
or VB script for your homepages you can also add WebControls as you
can't do with PHP. When you use PHP you have to check $_GET, $_POST
or $_SESSION arrays for fetching user data. ASP.NET is more used as a
WISYWIG tool. Add a control let's say a button for a form to the aspx
page then double click the button and you end up where you can write
the code.

Lars

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I've done some ASP.NET. Thanks anyway. I'll stick with PHP and
Apache on Linux. Cheaper and more efficient use of system resources.
ASP.NET is a huge resource hog - like all MS products.
Well that's as good reason as any one. Yes ASP.NET takes some system
resources. But if you design a large system the monley spend in time
saving is greater than what you save to run the system on a cheaper
machine.

There is one MS product I DON'T like and that's The MS Antispyware
Program. It removes all spyware except the biggest spyware of them all
"MSN Serach and WIndows Messanger". MS Antispyware program where
probably only written and released to get rid of all competition for
Microsoft MSN Search.

When it comes to programming tools I like Borlands tools better. As you
might know Delphi is also available for Linux under the name Kylix.

Lars


Let's take two similar VPS's I have. One is Windows - it has 512MB of
RAM (which is exceeded rather regularly, requiring paging) and a 10GB
hard drive (of which > 6GB is used before even loading the web sites).

The other is running on Debian Linux, with 128Mb RAM (exceeded
occasionally) and 5GB hard drive (about 2.3 GB used before loading web
sites).

Processors are similar on the systems, and the sites get about the same
percentage of load. Both have similar sites with similar requirements
and load. One is mostly ASP, the other entirely PHP. And both run
similarly quickly, although the Windows box typically runs a higher CPU
percentage than the Unix one does.

And before someone comments on the fact these are vps's - I also have
test systems set up on dedicated servers for development. The results
there are similar to that on the VPS's, although of course I have to
simulate loads, since they aren't directly on the internet.

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From what I have read and been told ASP.NET has the ability to tell how
to manage SESSION cockies for a particular site. I know you can set this
up in Apache but I recall that is for the entire webserver. By using
SESSION cockies in ASP.NET you can save a lot of processing on the
server. For example when you make a PostBack for a page and want to set
some date to change the view you should not redownload the date from the
database again. This can be set up in the web.config file. As I
understand not all PostBacks has to go via the server. I haven't got the
hang of it yet. I've only programmed ASP.NET for a month 2-4 hours a day.
But so far I'm very satisfied how easy it is to build web based database
systems with ASP.NET.

What's a VPS? Obvioulsy some thing common that I recall as soon as some
one explains.

Lars

Ah, they're finally catching up with that PHP, Perl, Java, etc. have been
doing for years.


Haven't used ASP.NET or ASP before so I couldn't tell if that was included
earlier. What I can tell is that ASP.NET has simlified web creating. ASP.NET
takes care of the connection to databases. You use the database as you would
do in Visual Basic, Delphi, Kylix or what ever ordinario programming tool
you are using.

From the server side ASP.NET generates HTML with JAve scripts back to the
server. If you browse a ASP.NET page check the source code and see for your
self. YOu could say that ASP.NET is a way to simplify writing of Java
Scripts. For example when you create a menu in ASP.NET you do in in a
WISYWIG tool that generates a Java menu back to the user.

It would be fair to compare PHP with ordinary ASP. The are basicly the same.
But ASP.NET is a whole new way of develping programs. It's a platform upon
the OS or Web Brower or what ever you are using. You could say microsofts
RESPONCE to Java. ANd as always Microsoft have to do things their own way.


BTW
What was VPS.

Lars

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