Re: Furthering my education in OOP - where/how can one learn professional skills?

lawrence k wrote:
On Nov 7, 2:47 pm, Darko <darko.maksimo...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Nov 7, 4:36 pm, Rob <ratkin...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On Nov 7, 2:11 pm, firewood...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
I need some help in furthering my education in OOP. I have developed
a set of PHP scripts that I use in a fairly sophisticated database
driven website, but I am not proud of the rather amateurish
programming that I used to create the functionality. Although I use
classes and objects to organize my data and their related functions,
it seems to be only marginally better than plain procedural
programming. For example, I do not use inheritance, much less
polymorphism.
The next step, it seems to me, is to become much more skilled in
analyzing a program from an OOP point of view and learning the
techniques for organizing the structure of the scripts and how to
implement them in a website. In other words, I want to move from
amateur to pro in terms of both career and technique.
Can someone point me in the direction of the right schools(online),
books, websites, example code, or other assets that I can use to
learn?
Also, is PHP the best language to use to learn and implement the full
power of OOP? If not, any suggestions?
Although I hate to say it, C#.Net is probably the best way to learn
OOP at the moment, as it pretty much forces you to write code in
the .Net way.
If you hate to say it, then don't say it :) I know it is an expected
behaviour here
at comp.lang.php to go around saying how Microsoft's products are bad
and how all the
rest is great, but I'm not trying to do that since I try not to be
emotionally related to
something I consider only my job.

So, if the topic starter needs to be _forced_ to make all in classes,
then he/she can use Java. I don't
really see the reason for that since, like Wasmus said already, it is
a little bit silly to make
contact forms or other small pages with objects. There is place and
time for everything, so that's exactly
PHP (and C++, for example) philosophy - use OOP if you need it, don't
use it if you don't need it. It is
only an important thing to be able to notice that you need it, which
is another story.

Before anyone tries to learn Java, they should read the introductory
chapter in Bruce Tate's recent book:

http://www.amazon.com/Java-Ruby-Manager-Pragmatic-Programmers/dp/0976694093/ref=sr_1_1/105-2471520-1320409?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1194496791&sr=8-1

He makes a good case for switching from Java to Ruby for all kinds of
work, especially web work.





It's not a "good case". He makes some assumptions which are not valid - like it will only be used for Web applications. Not true - I've written a lot more Java code for non-web based apps than anything else. Ruby is good on the web - but quite frankly, it doesn't do well in other apps.

OO is NOT just a web design strategy!

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