Re: Recommend PHP-Based Dashboard?

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Can anyone recommend a PHP-based dashboard product or open source
project?
wtf is a 'dashboard' ?

My employer is looking to purchase a product to collect business
intelligence data like number of customer interactions by category and
display them in charts inside gadgets.
gadgets like pda's and big chief tablets? really! get rid of the lingo and start speaking in real terms.

We have an investment in PHP programmers instead of Java programmers,
and we mostly work with Linux.
and this is to illicite a response from php developers in a php usenet group trying to foster some kind of fear in us all that you may change your mind and go java or windows or mac? get real! both php and linux stand on their own as fine products. the fact that you're saving millions by taking this as your strategy only means you (your company) isn't stupid! the fact that you post this kind of remark is not only insulting to us - like we're too dim to catch such subtleties - it underscores your pandering. it's pitiful. are you in sales or the news media? that's where this kind of *** most frequently presents itself!
LOL. :-)
/me passes a nice cool beer to Steve so he can relax a little.
not a big beer drinker...actually, i don't like beer. long islands are quite nice though. :^)

Seriously, I am not sure the OP ment the PHP/Java line in that way.
If he did, horaaaay to your response. well deserved.
If not, well... bad luck :P
yeah, if i just read it alone then i'd had just thought the op had a disjointed thought. however in context, it seems the guy is reasonably intelligent and has used usenet before. the likelihood of that being there without reason seemed remote...which prompted my attention a bit more than what it normally would have.

either way, my panties never wadded...so i think we're ok. :)

Anyway, question still stand: wtf is a dashboard?
Not sure, I expect it is something that draws lines showing that the management is making the right decissions.
i don't get into lingo much at all. the 'dashboard' i'm familiar with is like a home page with performance indicators for financials and other resources. however, that's a term used by my employer...whom is an automobile manufacturer. so to me, that's just an isolated pun/double-entendre. it would be reasonable that the term goes beyond just this industry, however why would i look it up because i saw it used in usenet...and why would i assume the definition.

i just leave it at the request, 'wtf is a dashboard'.

And how on earth did it get in peoples minds that business intelligence is something you can pull of a shelf?
Did Microsoft tell them that while selling MS SQL Server?
I worked on 'business intelligence' systems for some while at HP, and believe me, it is just old fashoined database design/query work as usual, but with a coat around it for managers so they can understand it too. If you are lucky you can work with cubes, which is good fun. ;-)
:)
I read your response just like Erwin did. And you're still full of ***.
good for you x2. and anyone cares because?

Just another example of a troll at work. And this time you can't claim I "forced" you to do it.
wtf? when did i ever make such a claim, jerry? please grap the message id and post it in your next divelling response. i really pissed you off by quoting the point and quoting your restatement of it...and how it goes to show you're functionally illiterate and/or easily distracted, i.e. a.d.d.

btw, can you or can you not run cgi from the command-line? yes or no. M.O.R.O.N.
Stuff it, ***. You're still full of ***.
let me get down to your level...you can't make me, and, nuh-uh.

And NO, you cannot run a CGI script from the command line.
sorry, already showed that you can. you cannot distinguish wtf you're talking about to give proof to your claim. as i run true cgi scripts from the cgi exe *all the time* from the command-line, i assure you that you're wrong.

T.R.O.L.L.
lol.
And how exactly to you set a cookie? Or start a session? Things CGI scripts are allowed to do?
oh, so you want to talk about the script running under cgi, NOT cgi (exe) from the command-line. ***, i wish you'd follow along...strawman-builder. either way, you're a retard. the above explicitly states that i must use a feature of cgi (cookie, session, etc.) in order to be considered a cgi script. ROFL. not only is that hog-wash, it's NEVER BEEN THE POINT. i can run a script via cgi executable from the command-line. were you actually following along in this an the original usenet group and thread, you'd have gotten that by now.

That's where you've got your head up your ass. That's ALL it's about! In PHP, CGI is not a program. It's a SCRIPT. Whether you're using the CGI executable or not is IMMATERIAL. But your brains are so full of *** you've never figured that out.
sorry, you lose. php runs scripts. and what you cliam it's "all it's about", that's what you've made it about and i'm not arguing your strawmen. burn them as you will.

<? echo 'hello world; ?>

that's script. that's php. the op wanted to know how he could tell, in a script, what kicked it off (web, command-line, etc.) and if is was a module, cli, or cgi running it. since the above can be run via cgi, cli, or via a module as part of a web server or other application, the question is valid...even if he's trying to detect cgi run on the command-line...since all of these combinations are possible.

see jerry, when someone makes a claim (cgi on the command-line is possible), it would be in your best interest to refute the claim directly. instead, your counter is against claims never made. i suppose you could successfully do that all day long if you wanted. i suppose you'll have to since you can't directly refute the ACTUAL claim.

get that through your meaty head already.
But it's not a CGI script. That's the difference.
dude!

ok, here's an analogy for you...

if a rifle is php, car15 is cgi, ruger is module, and remmington is cli...does the fact that i fire a .223 through any of them change the fact that you may be using a car15, ruger, or remmington?

if a zebco is php, does the fact that i use spider-wire line or stink bait or boilies change the rod and real?

your point is rediculous, meathead!

The php-cgi executable does nothing by itself. That's where you are so dense.
it seems to do what i need it to regardless of if i don't use cookies or session data. i have crons that do wonderfully well running php cgi that imports data via ftp, processes it, and dumps the data into a db. if got several others that do much more complicated things. and some that in fact, need to know if it's cgi or cli or a module running the script.

I repeat - let's see you do something from the command line cgi like set a cookie or start a session.
first of all, did you ever consider, remotely, that the op was trying to detect the environment and executable running his script so that he would know what features were available to him...inclusive of cookies or sessions?

Those are things cgi scripts and programs do. That's what makes them different than non-cgi scripts and programs.
sorry, the script doesn't make the cgi exe suddenly change to cli or a module because the script may not use a cookie or session. the op's delima still remains...how does he tell. AND cgi run from the command-line is a VALID condition to check. YOU THINK IT IS NOT...but can't support your argument. you just keep sidelining to things not even worth considering.

Now get your head out of your ass and learn something.
yes, do get your head out of your ass and learn something...and quit projecting...again.
Get your head out of your ass, S.T.O.O.P.I.D. T.R.O.L.L. You have NO IDEA what you're talking about. But you have to show your S.T.O.O.P.I.D.I.T.Y. anyway.

I've tried explaining it to you in simple terms. Unfortunately, you can't seem to understand even the simplest concepts.

you've tried to explain that your point is germain to the original proposition. it isn't. we're not buying it. backpeddling won't help you. notice everytime i point out the op and where your logic is faulty, you do this:

But that's not surprising for someone who's got *** for brains.

ad-hom, jer...you lose. were you to have a leg to stand on, you'd directly counter rather than diverting (attempted poorly) attentions.




No back peddling, S.T.O.O.P.I.D. T.R.O.L.L. But you've again proven your brains are so full of *** you don't understand simple English.

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