Re: Working more efficiently in PHP
- From: Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:19:41 -0400
Twayne wrote:
"Elizabeth Barnwell" <elizabethbarnwell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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This is a tool for learning the PHP programming language:
http://www.yoyobrain.com/subjects/show/3120
You can look through the tabs to find information, and you can have
the site quiz you to help you retain more of the language. Our
developers have found this method useful, and are building YoYoBrain
to help others learn prorgmming languages. Any feedback on the site
and the flashcards is appreciated.
Dale, instead of bitching, why not offer actual assistance? Your response is nothing but a put-down for PHP beginners and worse than useless the way you set your stance.
ask questions that are good questions, and then answer them
correctly. ex.,
'special tags that tell apache that php should execute code'
paraphrased.
first, you assume php is being run on apache. second, your answer:
'<? ?>' paraphrased, is wrong on several counts:
Perhaps it needed mentioning; I didn't see it right off the bat. Chances are it will be Apache, but you're right IF the information would have been incorrect for another server flavor. You said nothing helpful; just bitched.
apache (whatever web server) can run php in a couple of modes, however
afaicr, it passes requests of for php to process in masse, not line
by line. it is *PHP* that interprets the tags so that it can tell
when it needs to process stuff. also, it is bad form anymore to just
use <? as an opening tag...<?php is the recommended/correct answer. i
could go on...but...
It's "en masse", speaking of being correctly stated. "afaicr" right away says you're not sure of what you're talking about. Congrats on <? vs <?php, but ... "bad form" really doesn't say much. It's a case of the "short tags" not being recognized in many cases, not that it's "bad form".finally, in another question, you ask how to output php results to the
browser. 'echo()' was your only answer. print, sprintf, print_r, and
even the venerable short-hand <?= ?> notation are a few of MANY
possible answers.
For beginners and probably for the level of the audience, IMO that's a perfectly legitimate answer. printf scanf etc. are all al ittle advanced for beginners and also IMO at this audience level would introduce confusion that would require additional attention that the tut is not aimed at. So instead of bitching, why not just mention that there should be a statement that other methods are available but aren't within the confines of ... .i went through about 20 of the flash cards and found either the
question was a poor question and/or the answer was a poor, or
downright wrong answer.
That's funny. I went through about 20 of them also, and found the answers to be short and correct. You must have only counted the ones you wanted to count in order to keep your bitch-rate up.perhaps you should have an actual php developer write the questions
and give the answers. more importantly, have a php illiterate check
both using the manual (jerry stuckle would be perfect for that job :).
Perhaps you're right. And perhaps, more than having an actual developer write the questions and answers, it would be better to have an experienced programmer not too far past the intermediate stage, judge the validity/correctness of the questions and answers. It's the OP's concept: THAT is what needs to be supported.
I don't know you and you may have forgotten more than most will ever know about PHP. However, that does not in any way make you a good candidate to judge these sorts of things. Some people know how to target an audience and some don't. It takes a lot more than just "knowing the language" to do what the OP wants to accomplish.
IMO you provided very little feedback; unless you consider egotistical bitching feedback, I guess. I came away from your post thinking you really could use a good seminar on interpersonal skills.
My 2 ¢ anyway; maybe that's all it's worth. I've been wrong before & I'll be wrong again.
Twayne
Twayne,
Dale/Steve/lots of other pseudonyms is just a troll. Most people have plonked him. He keeps changing 'nyms so that others will read his posts because he doesn't add anything positive to this newsgroup.
You're blood pressure will be a lot lower if you do the same. I highly recommend it :-)
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