Re: Working more efficiently in PHP
- From: Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:22:09 -0400
Twayne wrote:
Twayne wrote:Twayne,"Elizabeth Barnwell" <elizabethbarnwell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in messageDale, instead of bitching, why not offer actual assistance? Your
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This is a tool for learning the PHP programming language:
http://www.yoyobrain.com/subjects/show/3120
You can look through the tabs to find information, and you can have
the site quiz you to help you retain more of the language. Our
developers have found this method useful, and are building
YoYoBrain to help others learn prorgmming languages. Any feedback
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response is nothing but a put-down for PHP beginners and worse than
useless the way you set your stance.
ask questions that are good questions, and then answer themPerhaps it needed mentioning; I didn't see it right off the bat.
correctly. ex.,
'special tags that tell apache that php should execute code'
paraphrased.
first, you assume php is being run on apache. second, your answer:
'<? ?>' paraphrased, is wrong on several counts:
Chances are it will be Apache, but you're right IF the information
would have been incorrect for another server flavor. You said
nothing helpful; just bitched.
apache (whatever web server) can run php in a couple of modes,It's "en masse", speaking of being correctly stated. "afaicr" right
however afaicr, it passes requests of for php to process in masse,
not line by line. it is *PHP* that interprets the tags so that it
can tell when it needs to process stuff. also, it is bad form
anymore to just use <? as an opening tag...<?php is the
recommended/correct answer. i could go on...but...
away says you're not sure of what you're talking about. Congrats on
<? vs <?php, but ... "bad form" really doesn't say much. It's a
case of the "short tags" not being recognized in many cases, not
that it's "bad form".
finally, in another question, you ask how to output php results toFor beginners and probably for the level of the audience, IMO that's
the browser. 'echo()' was your only answer. print, sprintf,
print_r, and even the venerable short-hand <?= ?> notation are a
few of MANY possible answers.
a perfectly legitimate answer. printf scanf etc. are all al ittle
advanced for beginners and also IMO at this audience level would
introduce confusion that would require additional attention that the
tut is not aimed at. So instead of bitching, why not just mention
that there should be a statement that other methods are available
but aren't within the confines of ... .
i went through about 20 of the flash cards and found either theThat's funny. I went through about 20 of them also, and found the
question was a poor question and/or the answer was a poor, or
downright wrong answer.
answers to be short and correct. You must have only counted the ones
you wanted to count in order to keep your bitch-rate up.
perhaps you should have an actual php developer write the questionsPerhaps you're right. And perhaps, more than having an actual
and give the answers. more importantly, have a php illiterate check
both using the manual (jerry stuckle would be perfect for that job
:).
developer write the questions and answers, it would be better to
have an experienced programmer not too far past the intermediate
stage, judge the validity/correctness of the questions and answers. It's the OP's concept: THAT is what needs to be supported.
I don't know you and you may have forgotten more than most will
ever know about PHP. However, that does not in any way make you a
good candidate to judge these sorts of things. Some people know how
to target an audience and some don't. It takes a lot more than just
"knowing the language" to do what the OP wants to accomplish.
IMO you provided very little feedback; unless you consider
egotistical bitching feedback, I guess. I came away from your post
thinking you really could use a good seminar on interpersonal skills.
My 2 ¢ anyway; maybe that's all it's worth. I've been wrong before &
I'll be wrong again.
Twayne
Dale/Steve/lots of other pseudonyms is just a troll. Most people have
plonked him. He keeps changing 'nyms so that others will read his
posts because he doesn't add anything positive to this newsgroup.
You're blood pressure will be a lot lower if you do the same. I
highly recommend it :-)
Thanks Jerry, no problem with BP<g>. My real intent was to ease up on the OP and let him/her know that the opinion wasn't shared. Newbies have enough trouble without being lambasted. Then I sort of got on a roll, and ... lol shouldn't have.
Sorry for wasting so much ether,
Twayne
Nah, he deserved it :-)
I just took a quick glance - I'm really busy right now and didn't have time to take a long look. But I like the idea. I'll try a longer look when I get a chance.
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