Re: php form and ssi

Henrik Carlqvist wrote:
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
And exactly how many are out there? Maybe zero? One?

Today I only know two sites using phpoi. They both use server side
includes to call phpoi.


That's two sites more than I know who use SSI for PHP. Why do they need to use SSI, anyway?

There are many more using IIS. You have now locked them out from using
your module.

It would have been a lot better with a solution that would work also with
IIS. However, both sites using phpoi today is using Apache on different
web hotels, so at least an apache-specific solution won't mean any trouble
for current users of phpoi. If phpoi would require that the entire calling
page is written as a php script it would mean trouble for both current
users. One site has built up its entire menu infrastructure with .shtml
and the other site is built using a tool made to edit (s)html files, not
php files.


You'll lose a lot more customers by ruling out IIS users than those using SSI. The latter can change very easily

If they want to use your module, they will.

If someone really wants to use my module they might be willing to reencode
their entire site in php, or they might be willing to switch to another
web hotel with another web server. For most people it would be easier to
switch web hotel than to reencode their entire site.


They don't need to reencode their entire site in PHP. Just a couple of pages.

However, I would really prefer a solution that doesn't have any of those
requirements.


You can't have everything.

And why not? Just because they use flash or something else in one part
of the site means your project isn't useful in other parts of the site?

If you have built an entire site with menu structures and all with flash
you would probably not be very tempted to add a single page on your site
that is built with php. If you would add that page you would have to
choose between adding a page that looks completely different from the rest
of your site or you would have to do the hard work of maintining two
different implementations of your designed web page with menus and layout
looking the same.


First of all, I wouldn't have an entire site in flash. I would use it where appropriate, however. And if your page "looks completely different", no, I wouldn't include it. But that's YOUR problem - you should be flexible enough that I can included it in the rest of my site and transparently. I can do that with a lot of other packages. Why not yours?

I think your priorities are not very real-world.

My priorities are based on the current users of phpoi. Your world might
look different than the world I have seen. Maybe it was only a coincidence
that none of my users had their sites on IIS. Even though it is possible
to run php on IIS it might be so that most sites on IIS servers run asp
instead.


I think your priorities are not very real-world. And there are a HUGE number of IIS servers which run PHP. You've just lost a big portion of your market.

I would really prefer a solution that also works on IIS. The solution with
virtual() has shown that it is possible to pass form data through .shtml
to .php. Is there any way that it is possible to pass form data through
.shtml to .php without using virtual()?


Then don't worry about .shtml and don't use virtual(). Use what everyone else uses.

If I will have to choose between the virtual() solution and no solution at
all I will choose the virtual() solution and sacrifice all potential IIS
users.

regards Henrik

And your project will never become popular. The vast majority of your potential users will look at that and run the other way - quickly.

And soon, someone else will come out with a project which really meets the users needs, and they will become the popular one. Yours will be all but forgotten.

But that's ok with me - it's not my project.

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