Re: Securing PHP

r0g <aioe.org@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

John wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:25:42 +0000, r0g <aioe.org@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Jim Carlock wrote:
Just curious...

Does anyone here run a website of their own?

Have you ever read the logs of the hits? Have you ever compared those
hits with ads that you run through Google AdSense?

Have you ever set up a framed HTML page and tried to read a page off
your website?

Have you inserted those methods I listed above to see what happens?

What does any of this have to do with PHP?


Oh shut up Jerry you f******g pedant!

You really have nothing better to do with your life than be a netiquet
nazi do you? Just don't reply if you aren't interested, your constant
haranguing doesn't improve the quality of this group one iota.

That's exactly what it does do.

These forums would becaome a rats nest if people didn't keep an eye on
the content and format.


Rubbish, there are far larger usenet groups that are a lot more civil
than this which don't snap and carp and growl at people who aren't 100%
on topic, or who dare to announce their projects and web pages.

Take a look at comp.lang.python - you will see it is a far healthier
group than this one both in terms of traffic, quality of content and
quality of contributor. People announce their projects and sites on a
regular basis (there is a convention whereby these [ANN] is used in the
subject to denote this) and people are fine with that, unlike here where
if anyone mentions a website Jerry instantly seizes on it and posts what
I'm sure he thinks is a witty rebuttal accusing them of spamming and
cynical motives. Likewise there is a convention there (and in most
groups) that people posting off topic mention that in the subject line
an nobody seems to mind. If they forget or are ignorant of the need to
mark their posts as OT then it attracts some modest sniping and snarky
comments, not an unthinking belligerent tirade like it does here. You
can tell people they're in the wrong place politely you know. What I
object to is how Jerry clearly enjoys being an venomous old fart.

Yes I see a couple of spam posts get through to comp.lang.python every
day but A) you hardly notice as they get 5x the traffic you do on
comp.lang.php and B) being a dick and tearing a strip off anyone for the
slightest of transgressions is hardly going to dissuade real spammers,
it's not like they read your responses anyway. All you're going to do is
scare the noobs off using usenet altogether (which I'm sure some of you
old curmudgeons would love) and reinforce the stereotype that computer
programmers are a bunch of antisocial overly pedantic freaks (although
I'm sure some of you are).

Roger.

As a side note (I agree with you btw), people replying to what they
consider to be spam is bad practise for a start. If it *is* spam they
are merely revealing it yet more to the rest of the world. Announcing
projects to do with PHP is perfectly on topic in a PHP news group in my
opinion. I could hardly think of a better place to make it known to
fellow PHP programmers whose input you might solicit. So I have to
disagree with Jerry on that issue.

regards

r.


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