Re: [PHP] Class Static variables in double quoted string or heredoc

On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Robert Cummings <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 11:11 -0600, Nathan Nobbe wrote:
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Robert Cummings <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 10:55 -0600, Nathan Nobbe wrote:

bah; concatenation operator - schmacatatenation operator! i dont
really
care about that; but i would like to see support for $a::$someStatic
come
back. thats what im whining about ;)

That funny part, IMHO, is that on internals they often complain about
new features not being simple enough for the supposed mentally
incapable
masses. And yet there's support for this kind of double quoting stuff
that just makes me think poor form, bad style, and where's my t-shirt.


are you saying this feature is too esoteric for you ? :)

No, it's too, hmmm... what's the word... REDUNDANT!

:)


actually, its a little cleaner if you ask me. infact i think being able to
delimit strings in either single or double quotes was a precursor to this.
example: java; if i want to have double quotes in a string i *have* to
escape them w/in the string \". in php or javascript; i simply delimit the
string w/ single quotes. this feature is simply an evolution of that
concept, IMHO.

besides i didnt create the double quoted support and thats not even what
im
arguing about anyway. the syntax ive mentioned was there in a pre-5.2.4
release (discovered it didnt actually make the cut for the 5.2.4) it save
you from having to write ugly little helper methods and thats a benefit i
wouldnt mind having.

There's a reason they call it "pre-release". It means it's not
"final" ;)


what the world needs is a term for the 'pre-release' being cooler than the
release ;)

php has a great dilema, it wants to cater to a wide range of users; from
newbs to experts. thats a massive undertaking and well if youre gonna do
it, you may as well go whole-hog IMHO.

I don't see how the throwing everything and the kitchen sink into double
quotes support caters to either of these groups. It strikes me, and of
course that's who matters here >:),


i matter more !:D


that it caters to the messy, "I wish
I REALLY knew what I was doing", slovenly crowd.


if you dont know about the concatenation operator my thought is you wont be
going far w/ php or any other language for that matter :)

Just because a feature exists, doesn't mean you should use it!


here we are back at the classic syntactic sugar argument. at least weve
moved past abstract classes and interfaces !

good times :D

-nathan

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