Re: why do some mail servers treat perl generated mails as Bulk

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Date: 13 Feb 2004 12:18:24 -0800

KK (kewlkarun@yahoo.com) wrote:
: Hi,
: With Mail::Sender I could finally able to send mails from windows
: machine. However, when I use yahoo DSL HMTP mail server, my mails are
: considered Bulk Emails. Is there a way I can avoid this ?

Apparently not if you send from your PC using your current provider.

Yahoo is probably looking at your ip address. Many many many addresses
are in untrusted ranges and will be flagged or simply discarded by many
systems that receive mail.

To send mail reliably, you need to find a host that is trusted by systems
that receive mail and send your mail from that host. Depending on the
host, you may be able to send mail from your PC using smtp but will point
the smtp at your ISP's mail host and use it as a relay, so the recipients
see the trusted host's ip.

I'm not saying this is technically required, or good or bad, I'm just
saying that that is often what you must do in practise if you wish to
upload your message data into the reciepients file space.

: Peon, just curious as to why cant I use these modules to post mails
: to employers?

He said don't _spam_ employers using these modules. You could use them to
send other mail to employers. Beware though that sending multiple copies
of similar documents to anyone is liable to put your mail and/or ip
address into various spammer lists.

: would they be detecting them as spam? if yes, how?

E.g. DCC, RAZOR

: what
: is the best way to mail the same mail to 10 different people?

10 copies is bulk, no? so you'll notice the yahoo bulk flag would have
been correct in this case.

I doubt that ten copies would get you onto any/many spam lists, though it
might. Unless you have a pre-existing permission to send mail then the
best thing is to tailor each mail to the specific requirements of the
recipient so that the mail is truly "on topic" for the receipient when
they read it. Remember though that what a sender considers "on topic"
is commonly just "the usual crap" to many of the recipients.

: After all, programming should be practical!

rejecting/flagging mail from untrusted ip's is very practical - from the
recipient's point of view.

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