Re: Anyone use ELSE minor-mode in Emacs?

From: François Pinard (pinard_at_iro.umontreal.ca)
Date: 12/17/03


Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:42:06 -0500
To: "John J. Lee" <jjl@pobox.com>


[John J. Lee]
> François Pinard <pinard@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
> [...]
> > P.S. - If I'm using past instead of present, about ELSE, this is because
> > not so long ago, I switched my habits away from Emacs (towards Vim).

> Why? [...] But maybe you were originally a vi user, and have just had
> a long emacs detour?

No. You cannot imagine how much I could not stand `vi' for myself. On
machines without Emacs or some form of Emacs clone, I was using `ed', or
even `sed', just for avoiding finding myself stuck within `vi'. So, to
see myself using Vim now, represents an astonishing conversion! :-)

The "Why?" is a bit difficult to tell in a few words. Especially since
I still consider Emacs as a wonder. I explained my reasons to a few
friends and saved my notes, and I'll probably turn them into some Web
page if I find some more free time. Let me post the URL here then...

Let me say right away is that I would have never ever considered Vim if
it did not offer proper Python support. Pymacs seems more powerful to
me that Python in Vim, yet Python in Vim is neat and quite usable.

Vim surprisingly has many functionalities, under paradigms which vary
slightly or greatly, which I thought Emacs was alone to offer. This
helped me to "swallow the snake", which admittedly has been rough :-).

-- 
François Pinard   http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard


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