Re: Bigloo vs. Python, features (was Re: Typed Python?

From: Jacek Generowicz (jacek.generowicz_at_cern.ch)
Date: 07/15/04 

Date: 15 Jul 2004 10:58:29 +0200

Siegfried Gonzi <siegfried.gonzi@kfunigraz.ac.at> writes:

> Jacek Generowicz wrote:
>
> > > I do not grasp why one would implement an object system without a
> > > perceived valuable meta object protocol.
> >
> > You appear to have gone from not seeinig the point of a MOP, to not
> > seeing why one would implement an object system without one, in under
> > 29 hours, 16 minutes and 53 seconds. Must be some sort of world
> > record. (Mechele's answer must have made a huge impression on you.)
>
> You know the sentence is not meant as you read it.

I admit that I sometimes deliberately interpret things in a way which
they were not originally intended. However, I am not doing it in this
case.

> Why do you insist that I personally "perceive" a MOP valuable?

I do not insist; I implied it just once.

I implied it, because that is what I inferred from your choice of
words. My interpretation could well be wrong.

> > Why pick on Scheme?...
>
> Why not?

Because Scheme is irrelevant to the question you seem to be asking
... but I appear not to be able to interpret your words correctly, so
Scheme may well be central to the issue for all I know.

Because "picking" on languages and posting provocative articles in the
languages' newsgroups wastes a lot of people's time. I guess you do it
inadvertently, but you do seem to do it rather a lot (all based on
recollections of posts I associate with you across various NGs over
some period of time; I may be misremembering: if so, I
apologize. Also, it is likely that your most memorable threads are the
ones that stick in my memory ... so I'm likely to have a lop-sided
recollection of your posts).

[Googling ...]

Your opening shot in the c.l.scheme thread you started is:

  Someone explained to me on comp.lang.python that Bigloo its object
  system is crippled due to its lack of a meta object protocol.

You really know how to put the reader in the right mood for reading
the rest of your post. Fortunately enough, you distance yourself
sufficiently from the negative implications of your opening shot,
later on in the article.

But this is turning into an ad-hominem subthread (and I set us off on
that course, so I apologize) ... so let's not continue in that
direction.

I should have said: "Your question isn't really relevant to Scheme"
and left it at that.

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