Re: Advice on long running processes

commander_coder@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Hello,

I write a lot of CGI scripts, in Python of course. Now I need to
convert some to long-running processes. I'm having trouble finding
resources about the best practices to do that.

I've found a lot of email discussions that say something like, "You
need to educate yourself about the differences when you have long-
running processes" but I've not had a lot of luck with finding things
that explain the differences.

The biggest differences between run-and-exit vs. long running processes are
resource management and error recovery. Let's take them one at a time.

Resource management. In a short-lived process, you really don't have to
worry about this at all. Snarf as much memory as you need, open as many
files as you want, and when you exit, the operating system cleans it all up
for you. With a long running process, you have to worry about stuff like
that.

In Python, you're isolate from the low-level details of memory management,
but still need to think about it a bit. Imagine you had code that looked
like this in your main loop:

for request in getNextRequest():
requestList.append (request)
processRequest(request)

requestList is going to keep growing without bounds and eventually will eat
up all available memory in the system and your process will crash.
Everything you store, you also need to delete when you're done with it.

Same with files. In a short-lived process, you can generally open as many
files as you want and never worry about closing them. It unlikely you will
ever run out of file descriptors. In a long running process, that's not
the case. If you open a new file each time you get a request and never
close it, after a few hundred requests (depending on the operating system,
maybe even a few thousand), you'll run out of file descriptors.

The other big thing is error recovery. In a short lived process, if
something fails, you print an error message and exit. In a long running
process, you need to somehow recover from the error and keep going as best
you can. This can be tricky.
.

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