Re: Getting the word to conventional programmers

sigzero_at_gmail.com
Date: 03/24/05


Date: 23 Mar 2005 15:22:09 -0800


Cameron Laird wrote:
> In article <1111613336.660577.241450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> <sigzero@gmail.com> wrote:
> .
> .
> .
> >It would have been nice to put in a blurb for some of the cool stuff
> >planned for 8.5. That way people could see that things are
*happening*
> >in the Tcl world and Tcl is moving forward language wise.
> >
> >That doesn't take away from the article though. It was just a
thought.
> .
> .
> .
> Robert, though "just a thought", I want to say a few words in
response:
> you're wrong. Or, you're ambiguous: I think you're saying, "To
appro-
> priately infect readers with the enthusiasm for Tcl that you (and I)
> think they deserve to have, it is necessary to anticipate the
objection
> that Tcl is 'dormant' and convince them otherwise."
>
> Here's the problem: a magazine needs to be written for its readers,
> rather than its authors or any other actors (from a business stand-
> point, content ultimately is designed to serve advertisers, but that
> rather dreary reality is a distraction we'll ignore for now). Lynn's
> job was to profile the languages. To keep her scope manageable, she
> did not address the cultures of the different languages. As I under-
> stand her thoughts, she doesn't try to help the languages, but rather
> help the readers.
>
> It feels as though I'm hitting this tack of a point with a too-heavy
> sledgehammer. I sure don't want to offend you, Robert; I *do* want
> to take the opportunity to distinguish the different motivations
afoot
> here. While I think you already understand this, I'll make it
explicit:
> Lynn deserves our encouragement for her openness to ideas like use of
> scripting languages, not our censure for failing to go far enough.

The size of you hammer was okay with me. It takes a lot to offend me
and having delt with people from this group I know that most of the
stuff is constructive in nature anyway. : )

I did take the opportunity to submit the overall article to OSNews with
an extra link to the Tcl article.

Robert



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