Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Oct 31)

QOTW: "You aren't reading carefully. There is no claim that it loads
web pages correctly, only that you don't need to *worry* about it. That
sentiment is indeed IE compatible." - Donald Arsenau on c.l.t

"In Naperville, the most fascinating presentation for me was
stever's about Whim." - Richard Suchenwirth
http://wiki.tcl.tk/13972


POTW:
ANNOUNCE: InstallJammer 1.0.4 Released!
InstallJammer is a multiplatform GUI installer and builder
designed to be completely cross-platform and function on
Windows and most all version of UNIX with eventual support
for Mac OS X.
Changes:
This release fixes some minor bugs that have been reported
since the last release as well as adds some new actions
and a few small enhancements.
This release also includes a lot of changed debugging output
to better help developers debug an install. Much more
information is output to the debug logs.
Homepage: http://www.installjammer.com/
Downloads: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=148203
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/ba24c2d9fc15b7a2

ORBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl
All commands are equal, but some are more equal than others.
Mark Janssen writes another installment of
TclTimeLine (Pre)Views http://wiki.tcl.tk/17126
to highlight his point that with OO and [namespace ensamble]
there are now very different types of commands available.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/747c669c8b360e09
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/1983755740569e99

help selecting from a numbered list
using reqexp with or from expect to get at matched (sub)expressions.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/59aae16379d9e3ba

execute processes in parallel
working in parallel or waiting faster?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/6665114d38d4dc91

TIP #280, extended callframe introspection and debugging
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/6351083aa8e26d9

ATTC: At the Core:
A bit of tension in the last week over the set of OO Tips has
been converted to good momentum ( trial implementations of
itcl and snit) and a lively and constructive discussion.
Still the same discussion on TIP#257,#279
( and some stray messages off this thread )
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=30803768&forum_id=3854

TIPX: new, used and discarded Tips
TIP 125 by Brian Griffin : Converting between Frame and Toplevel Windows
http://www.tcl.tk/cgi-bin/tct/tip/125.html
Vote: Done
state has changed from Draft to Accepted

TIP 287 by Michael A. Cleverly : Add a 'chan available' Command
http://www.tcl.tk/cgi-bin/tct/tip/287.html
is a new TIP

TIP 288 by Peter Spjuth : Allow "args" Anywhere in Procedure Formal
Arguments
http://www.tcl.tk/cgi-bin/tct/tip/288.html
is a new TIP

TIP 289 by Peter Spjuth : Revision of [lrepeat] Argument Order
http://www.tcl.tk/cgi-bin/tct/tip/289.html
is a new TIP

TIP 290 by Eckhard Lehmann : Registration of Custom Error Handler Script
http://www.tcl.tk/cgi-bin/tct/tip/290.html

OOTW: Orphan of the week or questions nobody answered yet:
tk configure question
status of tk's thread awareness?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/e4ccf7da9cd966c7

TWIP: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl this week TEN years ago:
Dual control of Tcl program? Help!
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/26c9ceec61d0c7b2

Persistence for itcl-objects
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/bd9a18bb4c88f06c

3D simulation with TCL/TK, and OpenGL?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/d1698e81ca1fd7c0

PMAG: Tcl in printed and other Media:
Unix Review has an article touching on TileTk and the 13th
annual Tcl/Tk cConference ( written by Cameron Laird and Kathryn Soraiz)
http://www.unixreview.com/documents/s=10102/ur0610j/ur0610j.html


Thanks to Conference Keynoter Richard Suchenwirth for this summary
of Wiki activity:
After a long week of heated debates on the TCLCORE mailing list,
let us turn attention to the Wiki ...

A package or two
- Your chronicler was a bit surprised to see a tree structure being used
as the basis for a text editor - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/15581> - but
it allows a structured method of working=20

- Trampoline! is a package to deal with PDF files in pure Tcl=20
- <http://wiki.tcl.tk/13033>. Though confusion is possible: there
is also a cunning method to recursion by almost the same name

Do you care for MicroSoft Foundation Classes?
- If you want to combine Tk windows with the windows from, say, the
MFC classes, what can you do? Well, it does involve some C/C++ code,
but you can do it: <http://wiki.tcl.tk/15861> and=20
<http://wiki.tcl.tk/15867>

Tcl-centrisms
- The French Wiki presents a summary of activities in their monthly
newsletter - a good exercise in reading French and see what is=20
going in a non-English spoken community - <http://wfr.tcl.tk/1283>

- To use comments or not to use comments ... and if yes, how many?
The eternal debate on clear coding - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17137>

- Looking forward to Tcl 8.5? Don't we all! To get a look at what=20
is in stall: <http://wiki.tcl.tk/10630> and <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17101>

- Fortune telling or fairy tales? Two augurs have posted fascinating
stories about Tcl and the near future ... <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17128>
and <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17130>


Everything Tcl-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these
pages:
The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome
comp.lang.tcl is a crucial resource for Tcl practitioners.
An interesting perspective on its traffic appears at
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/about

The Tcl Developer Site is Tcl's "home base".
http://www.tcl.tk

Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher.
http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

The Tcl Developer Xchange is a highly organized resource center
of documents and software with provisions for individuals to
maintain references to their own software:
http://www.tcl.tk/resource/
The TDX sponsor, ActiveState, also keeps info to convince your
boss Tcl is a good thing
http://www.tcl.tk/scripting/

The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things
Tcl.
http://wiki.tcl.tk/0
For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
http://wiki.tcl.tk/969
There's also a high-quality Wikibook on Tcl:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Tcl

ActiveState maintains binaries distribution and development tools
http://www.activestate.com/Tcl
along with a Cookbook of Tcl recipes
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl

deli.cio.us presents an intriguing approach to reference commentary.
It already aggregates quite a bit of Tcl intelligence.
http://del.icio.us/tag/tcl

Cameron Laird tracks several Tcl/Tk references of interest (but
needs to validate many of the links).
http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/

Years ago, Cetus Links maintained a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

"Yahoo! Groups" archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts--even
though clta itself is dormant.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/

Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are supposed to be
listed at *Dr. Dobbs*, but sysad at CMP has fallen behind. We're working
with them to restore the archive.
http://www.ddj.com/topic/tcl/
In the meantime, an alternative is
http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl

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