Re: Is ActiveTcl 8.5 release to be used as it is?

On Dec 29, 3:43 am, Alexandre Ferrieux <alexandre.ferri...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On Dec 29, 2:41 am, Jeff Hobbs <jeff.ho...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Dec 28, 12:54 pm, Georgios Petasis <peta...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I just tried to upgrade to ActiveTcl 8.5. I uninstalled ActiveTcl 8.4
and installed AtciveTcl 8.5. But all the packages described in the
help/html files (like BWidgets, tcllib, tklib, etc) are missing.
I recall that these packages were missing also from ActiveTcl 8.5 betas,
but I assumed the omission was due to the beta state.

Initially, I thought that I had to use the teacup interface to retrive
them from a repository, but my attempts failed to install anything,
because the teacup exe tries to execute "tclsh.exe" which is not
included in ActiveTcl 8.5.

What am I missing? How is ActiveTcl 8.5 supposed to be installed?

Currently I recommend installing it next to 8.4 (aka "on top of").

It would have been *very* cool to announce this beforehand (or even
better, name the package "incremental" or "upgrade")...

This isn't the first release of AT 8.5, and it hasn't changed since
the betas. This shouldn't be that big a surprise, as this has been
discussed since first release of the AT 8.5 beta. The 8.5-on-top-
of-8.4 supported install was in fact a design goal for AT.

I too was so happy to get the 8.5 that I uninstalled the 8.4 without
hesitation !
(5 minutes later I discovered that TkCon was no longer in the menus...
so now I'm using wish instead)

So, do you recommend that all of us re-download and re-install 8.4 ?
Or do you have a schedule for a fleshier release ?

Also, why now name the executable "tclsh85.exe" instead of just
"tclsh.exe" ?
I have dozens of .bat scripts mentioning tclsh.
It is not really fun to modify all of them at each release.

We have a schedule for a fleshier release (should be Q1'08), but it
won't ever be as fleshy as 8.4 was. In that time, please provide
_constructive_ feedback on what you feel is absolutely necessary for a
base minimum, and whatever else will make the teapot rock solid for
all users. The versioned tclsh has to do with a possible conflict
with 8.4 which we'll have to figure out with a smarter installer.

Jeff
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